RELATED: All 15 Red Dead Redemption 2 Characters Based On Real People. "You fuckers killed my pa!" Press J to jump to the feed. Josh Blaylock (RDR, Undead Nightmare)Marissa Buccianti (child) (RDR 2) Ted Sutherland (pre-teen) (RDR 2) When referring to Abigail and Johns relationship, Dutch says, We all had her, but he married her. Its also been heavily implied that Jack may not be Johns biological son. shown on the map, but technically acts as the final mission of the game, as well as the chronological final mission in the Redemption series. Either way, the company has boxed itself into a chronological corner,as the Wild West was effectively dead by 1914, with many key characters already gone, perhaps making its best option to recall the founding of the Van der Linde gang or else focus on an entirely new crew ofgunslingers. /r/RedDeadRedemption - A subreddit dedicated to Red Dead Redemption & Red Dead Redemption 2, developed by Rockstar Games, the creators behind the Grand Theft Auto series. In Nuevo Paraso, close to the river, the player finds Edgar's brother, Phillip Ross, at a campsite. I know it's mostly implied that Jack became an outlaw after killing Ross. But extend the map and add rival gangs. If approached by a prostitute Jack will instead turn them down and may remark that his family would disapprove, showing that he still values the morals his family taught him. While helping strangers Jack will often lament that he has nothing to live for. He doesn't want to fight for the government. A worried Jack rushes to help his mother but is quickly infected as well, prompting John to hogtie them. During the ride to the ranch, Jack begins to ask John various questions about the later's travels. He becomes just like Arthur. He probably got killed by the government like John or by some outlaw or someone seeking vengeance much like he did. He is clearly falling into the same life/trap his father did and he hates the government so it makes sense. After the events of Red Dead Redemption, he is the last known gang member to be alive. The only canonical action of jack Marston is killing Edgar Ross, as thats when the credits roll, I think at some point he would have shipped off to europe for ww1. Being the only surviving member of the Marston family, the rest of Jack's life is unknown. Unless he was REALLY lucky, Jack probably died of some disease or died in one of the World Wars, that is if he volunteered or was drafted. During the non-canon Undead Nightmare DLC, Jack becomes infected, along with his mother. Red Dead Redemption 2 is an epic tale of life in Americas unforgiving heartland. This is the only side-mission which John Marston cannot complete. Jack was all about revenge even though revenge killed his father, he goes down the same path and dies, like poetry. He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. Jack's general attitude, character and personality in 1914 is very reflective of the player's honor level. Fordham is convinced that Jack is the outlaw who murdered former director Edgar Ross down in Mexico, but no body was ever recovered. The cabin that the Ross family lives in is the same cabin. Soon afterwards, the Marston family temporarily moved to the Yukon to participate in the ongoing gold rush, but they didnt make much from it. If you look into the bookshelfs in GTA5 he wrote a book named "Red Dead" so yeah, guess he became an author. He has grown taller and is only a few inches shorter than his father. And my god, what an amazing game but it got me thinking we still don't really have a headcanon for Jack. After being untied, Jack and Abigail embrace John. His fate after John's death and return as undead are unknown, and he can't be found anywhere. At the end of Red Dead Redemption, John Marston has finished hunting down the old members of his gang as part of a deal with Federal Agent Edgar Ross. Player choice. Arthur tells Tilly Jackson to take Jack to Copperhead Landing, to wait for Sadie and Abigail. I could see the government in the red dead universe catching up to him for his crimes and giving him an option of hanging or serving. And what if he dies, would it just put you back to the mission before the death? Jack Marstonmission strand:"The Last EnemyThat Shall Be Destroyed" Uncle is shot dead during the assault, and after continuing to fight off the soldiers, Marston sends Jack and Abigail away while allowing himself to be gunned down by the firing squad outside, sacrificing himself so that they can be free. The Shelby brothers from peaky blinders fought and Im sure they hated the government. Weapon Jack reveals that he was treated well by Bronte, being given a box of toys, regular baths, fed spaghetti, and learned the Italian words for horse and slipper. Either way, unfortunately, the true cause of Abigails death will remain a mystery thanks to the reluctance of the Red Dead Redemption games to name a definite reason. Rockstar Games Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. I think he might of just did nothing but work on the farm not being able to get over killing him and either just die old and alone or surrounded by loving family. His fate after John's death and return as undead are unknown, and he can't be found anywhere. WebMarston eventually finds his corpse being eaten by vultures. https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CI_ain%E2%80%99t_goin%E2%80%99_nowhere_old_man!%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:E_D_G_A_R_R_O_S_S.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CI%E2%80%99m_sure_your_husband_will_be_just_fine%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CYou_knew_my_father%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CYou_shot_him_like_a_dog!%E2%80%9D.ogg. Red Dead Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. After John untied them both, the Marston family embraces. I hope he became a writer or something but I think he'd become a soldier, to be honest. Jacks book is in gta v. Speculation is cool but its all pretty much right there. What would he do when he found them anyway? In fact, there's no immediate pressure to do this, and the game will gladly let players roam the towns and countryside as if they were simply replacing John. So Jack made a deal with the FIB so that if takes down the crime family jack and his gang can all have their names cleared off and the agent agrees and after jack and his gang are able to leave the life of crime. As the child of John and Abigail, Jack lived his early years around the various members of the Van der Linde gang such as Bill Williamson, Javier Escuella, Hosea Matthews, Arthur Morgan, Uncle, and even Dutch van der Linde, among others. After watching his father killing and skinning an elk, Jack finds another group, kill one of them, and skins it. Height: isn't stated in the game or the Wikia, but Jack is believed Jack and John fight more waves of soldiers before running off to the barn with Abigail. Rewards Before this Stranger will appear on the world map, the player must complete: After speaking with Howard Sawicki, the player must: The mission starts when the player talks to Agent Howard Sawicki in Blackwater, indicated by the "'?" He will have his own sprinting animation but shares the same animations as John Marston. In 1996 Jack eventually died of heart disease. At some stage during Jack's early years, John left the gang for a year. Jack and Abigail standing next to John's grave. In 1996 Jack eventually died of heart disease They all loved their country. Unless Rockstar decides to make it a walking simulator. The real difference, though, is that Edith Downeswas able to escape to a better life by the end ofRDR2, while Abigail wasn't so lucky. Anyway, john replies with " im pretty sure that wont sell, people like shootin in them things" . There is, of course, still a big chanceAbigail Marston died another way. Jack finds and confronts Ross, who shows no remorse for betraying John three years ago, and even threatening that to kill Jack if the latter will stay in the place. im sure theres some word that only poets and thesaureses know that describes how looking and seeing all the ideas for RDR2 DLC's, but its brutal man. Depending on if you play the side missions as Jack or John, Jack spends a good time after that helping people around the Wild West and Mexico. RDR2 caps it off nicely. John Marston (father) Abigail Marston (mother) Rufus (dog) Unidentified sister dead Unnamed paternal grandfather dead Unnamed paternal grandmother dead Additional info The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jack's final age at just 19. Jack is first playable during the final sequence of the mission "The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed"; he is limited to only riding his horseback to the Marston Ranch, and it is the only time where his 16 years-old self is controlled by the player. After Jack guns down Ross, he looks at his weapon in an almost questioning way, perhaps questioning if the decision to kill Ross was something his father wanted, as John always wanted Jack to have a life of peace. TransitoryPronghorn Ranch (temporarily; 1907)Beecher's Hope (1907- c.1914) She only stopped working when she fell in love with John. Jack Marston was born in 1895 as the first child of the outlaw John Marston and prostitute Abigail Roberts, two members of the Van der Linde gang. He eventually succeeds in killing Ross in a duel, and walks away, with the realization that he's about to become an outlaw, the very thing his parents tried to prevent him from being. When players first meet John Marston in the first Red Dead Redemption, he is fresh off the train from his farmstead, which has been rendered nearly vacant as the FBI abducted his family in an attempt to strongarm him Abigail and Jack return to the ranch soon after, only to find that John had been killed. Just like his father, Jack is unable to swim. Now under the player's control, he buries his Mansion (?) Later that year, the Marston family reunited after John bought Beecher's Hope and subsequently built a ranch there, along with Uncle and Charles Smith, who helped John to build it. Jack Marston (1915) After a year, Jack heads back to Beechers Hope. In my head-canon he got imprisoned and eventually drafted into World War I. Hearing the shots, Jack and Abigail rush to the farm, where they find the corpse of a heavily shot John. He has also taken to wearing his father's hat. Sometimes only at the end of a story do you realize what it was all really about. Following the bear hunt, Jack's face reminded scarred with bear scratches, resembling those of his father. Yeah he probably wouldn't willingly go to war, but I know in 1916 they brang out a law that said men 18 to 41 had to fight in WW1 unless they were physically injured. Before being hogtied, Jack chases Rufus but fails to catch him. Jack got his revenge. But maybe that's me wishing all the suffering Arthur and John went through wasn't for nothing. Mr. Marston - Father of John, of Scottish descent. Abigail Marston was an important side character in both of the Red Dead Redemptiongames. By 1914, Jack has received every weapon, horse, house, and outfit his father possessed before his death. Marshals and Bureau agents, led by Edgar Ross. Now you're on your own. It was Dutch who taught John how to read and shoot, ultimately resulting in Marston becoming a member of the Van der Linde gang. John says that, "If you ever spoke to him, you'd think he only ate haggis and wore a kilt", implying that he either had a heavy accent or knew his culture very well. After being untied, Jack and Abigail embrace John. And by the end of the first act, the biggest shift should be that the mobs need you far less now, and you're no longer able to use their resources. After the elk hunting, Jack begins to train with his rifle. He thought that California would bring him hope, but America is a land of broken dreams. Dont think jack would fight for the government after all they killed everyone he knew and loved, Same also I believe he wouldnt even change his name because I knew the government left him alone for 2 years after Johns death ; why would they even bother after an retired agent get mysteriously murdered in a duel , especially if You slaughtered the Ross family in that mission only 1 person knew about a stranger going to deliver a message to Ross. Given how important Abigail wasto the story of bothRed Dead Redemptiongames, the character deserves more closure. Simply being in close quarters with someone would be enough to contract a fatal disease such as tuberculosis, a common death sentence for the time. With that, it's fairly easy to figure out his age as events progress. I think that is a good idea. With Ross' death, Jack looks at his gun somberly, realizing he's become an outlaw, the very same life he was always told to avoid. One thing is for sure. She may have been killed by someone seeking revenge against John, particularly associates of the gang members he hunted down in the first game. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I always thought that he was sent to Europe to fight in WWI seeing as how he would be conscription age by the time The US entered the war. WebIts kind of implied at the end of rdr1 he says " maybe youll write a book one day" jack says " the legend of john marston when he stopped shooting" or something along those lines. Game A comment from Jack himself in 1907 suggests the gang not only cared about him a lot and tried to keep him out of their illegal activities, but also avoided mentioning them to the boy, yet Jack still managed to deduce something about it by himself. Afterwards, it is unclear whether Jack finally settled down after Ross death or continued a life of crime. When Abigail hears gunshots from the ranch, she tells Jack to ride back to Beecher's Hope. In Grand Theft Auto Online, it is possible for the Online Protagonist to be a relative of Jack as the player can choose to have John Marston as the father (impossible for John because the online protagonist would be dead by the events of GTA Online). Jack looks down at his handgun, understanding that while he avenged his family by killing the man who destroyed them, Jack is close to become an outlaw, the very life his father didn't want for him, and tried to avoid it in every way. Outside of his talent with a gun (which personally i like to think hes not quite as good as John or Arthur, even though he can use DeadEye) Jack always had his head in a book. As someone said earlier, hes prime age. Following the completion of the aforementioned mission, Jack becomes the player-controlled character for the remainder of the game. A long time ago there were several theories as to the fate of Jack. NEXT:Best Video Game Westerns That AREN'T Red Dead Redemption Games. Wishing to convince her that hed changed, John bought a ranch in the Great Plains area called Beecher's Hope. Wanders the remains of the west bounty hunting and or engaging in petty crimes eventually traveling to mexico. Related:What Red Dead Revolver's Main Character Could Be Doing In RDR3. Jack practicing his aiming skills, with John by his side. Jack rides to the top of Nekoti Rock, where he is attacked and injured by a bear who lived at the cave on the top of the mountain, while his horse is killed and half-eaten by the bear. After taking Abigail from the house, and the three head for the barn, where John gets Jack and Abigail on a horse. His son followed a different path. He apparently underwent a number of surgeries to transition to a cat. This will result in the player's death. After scaring off the wolves, John asks Jack to stay out trouble. Maybe promoting flashback missions? Outside of missions, players may freely Jack was born around the mid 1890's. Red Dead Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. As the player character, Jack shares most of his animations with his father but is provided with his own unique voice and lines, which tend to include references to his father, mother, Uncle, Landon Ricketts, lawmen, and animals. Nicknames Howard Sawicki Note: The events of Undead Nightmare are not considered part of the same canon as Red Dead Redemption. This of course the law on him particularly Edgars brother and son Philp and Joesph ross and after an intense shootout at the Marston ranch Jack goes on the run around america finding people who are in the same situation as him, betrayed and outcasted by the government. When you take over Jack, it's all about avenging his father john, look on the map in new Austin, not mexico, and you'll be sent on a mission to track down the Jack Marston (1915) After a year, Jack heads back to Beechers Hope. Mount Finally, John and Rufus ride to the top of Nekoti Rock, finding an injured Jack hiding behind a rock. He also developed an intense hatred for the American government and its law enforcement organizations, deeming them the real criminals and the people responsible for the demise of his family. Age: 4 in RDR2 and 16 in RDR. Circa 1894, a prostitute named Abigail Roberts became affiliated with the gang; despite sleeping with most of the gang's members, she eventually fell in love with John. 1899 At the end of the game, he returns to normal. not at all were here to turn you into a soldier.. Red Dead Redemption 2 is an epic tale of life in Americas unforgiving heartland. At times, he appeared to be somewhat timid and was often mild-mannered when speaking to his family or friends. With jack heading to California to settle down and become a famous arthur. Jack is brilliant. Arthur says goodbye to Jack, telling the young boy to "be brave". But he may have had resentment towards the government for using and killing his father. Nationality He wears a blue coat, a red scarf, and beige pants. 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